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"They barely sell as it is, I am afraid if I raise prices anymore they won't sell at all"

"My art isn't worth it"

"People won't pay what I want"

"Insert a million excuses here"

This is you! Or rather I should start off by saying this is all of us because I don't believe in playing the victim, we are equals here. We have all said it at some point in regards to sales. I personally have said it plenty of times. You, the reader are probably no exception.

Pricing is difficult, I offer my service and advice to who I can but at the end of the day I can't reach everyone to give you this talk. So I am writing this general journal about why your art ACTUALLY does not sell. I am going to try to be possitive but this journal may be harder to digest then most of the other informational journals simply because of the nature of the reason under pricing occurs. Which is because the seller has no self confidence, no experience, and is making business about their worth as a person when it has nothing to do with your value as a human being.

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Attitude:

Step 1: Drop the Bad Attitude: Your art and your worth as a person are two separate entities. Selling is a business. If anything your a bad business person. Not a bad artist. Acknowledge that there is a PROBLEM with your business that has a tangible solution. Not some abstract "I suck" problem, there is no solution to "I suck".

Step 2: Check Yourself before You Wreck Yourself: If you are serious about selling you have to be serious with people. No one is asking you to not be yourself. However, you have to be professional. This means.. no rant journals about personal issues or complaining about being demotivate etc unless you can be upbeat. These things negatively impact your viewership. They also discourage people from watching your JOURNAL which is where you release you commission openings. This is a business, not your diary. You have to put yourself above drama and devote your social feeds to you consumers/ fans.

Step 3: Professionalism: Acting like this actually is a business and having confidence in your prices, products, and interactions with consumers is key. If you ACT like your product is worth what you are charging no one is going to dispute that fact with you. Rather they are going to be excited to receive the commissioned work even if they had to pay more than they anticipated.

Step 4: Be Prepared to Deal with People: I feel like this fits under professionalism but you need to be PREPARED to answer questions. Make documents/ paperwork to make their life and your life easier so you don't have to answer the same question 100 times. People honestly do not WANT to bother you.

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Page/Advertising:

Step 1: Fix your Page: Why do popular artists have high viewership? Because of first impressions. Regardless of skill, If your profile page is boring and default, then by default so are you. I am more likely to go into someones gallery if when I click their profile it is organized and decorated well. Don't loose a opportunity to make a amazing first impression!

Step 2: Clean your Gallery: If your gallery is full of half done work, white backgrounds, un-centered images, and cat photos. Delete them. You are filling your page with crap that buries your product.  It also makes you look art look cheap. Gallery art is framed, centered, signed, and presented. Your work should be done exactly the same. Organize everything! Make this easy for people, don't waste their time.

Step 3: Where are your Prices?..uh..are you Open?: WHERE ARE YOUR PRICES?!?! ARE YOU OPEN!??!Where does it say you are open? In a journal you submitted 3 weeks ago that I deleted? People buy commissions after seeing work. Make it easy on yourself. Put a custom box on your page that says "COMMISSIONS OPEN" and put a link to your prices at the VERY TOP of your page in huge font. You have to beat people over the head with this stuff. Don't assume they can figure it out themselves.

Step 4: Advertising: Like I said if you are having trouble selling its cause you aren't SELLING yourself. Post deviations,polls, journals, talk about your SUCCESS if you get some commissions. If you POST something before you open say "commission's coming soon!" If you POST a commission say, "this is a commission for "insert name" I am open".

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Opening/ Orders:

Step 1: Be Prepared to Deal with People/ Paper Work: You need to be PREPARED to answer questions BEFORE YOU OPEN. Make documents/ paperwork to make their life and your life easier so you don't have to answer the same question 100 times. People honestly do not WANT to bother you. So you better make it easily available. Put it on your front page. Nothing is worse than loosing a sale cause you weren't prepared. So figure out what documents you need before hand.

Step 2:Money: Determining price is a huge messy ordeal. But you cannot charge less than 8 a hour. If you are, you are loosing money. If you can't produce something in under 6 hours you shouldn't be selling it as your first commission product. You are here to make a profit. Not slave for 9 hours on something for 10 dollars. That isn't even enough to buy a shirt. If You charge less than 8 dollars for anything...ANYTHING. You are underselling. period. I will go into more detail another time.

Step 3: Dealing with Orders: Have a way to keep organized/ keep all your order forms. Believe me sometimes you will forget what you are doing. Keep everything.

Step 4: No: ....No means no...if you are uncomfortable...don't...take...the order. You will hate it. I promise. If you ARE going to decline at least offer them OTHER solutions instead of blindly turning them down.

Step 5: Do I want your Money?: Make sure you are being smart and checking who is making a order. Read their journals, their front page, their art comments. If they are a douche. Don't take the order.

Step 6: Follow Up: If you have a ISSUE you have to notify your commissioners. I have a 1 week delivery time after I post the last work. If it takes me more than 7 days from the date of the last submission I will notify the consumer I am late, and when I am planning on starting. I also sent a "shipped" notice once I do start. You guys need to be professional.

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Art/ Delivery/ Presentation/ What is a Good Product to Sell.

Now that I went over all of the other mistakes people make. I can get to the art. This is pretty subjective to taste but there is stuff you can do. So here is what I do...

Step 1: What are you Selling Again?: If you are starting out don't expect people to just want your stuff. Make a sample piece first.

Step 2:Is it Good for Me?: IS the product you are selling actually going to be productive and cost effective for you emotionally. I see people try to sell what they think will sell, what other people sell, or what they think will be a good challenge but to be honest you should be selling something that you can easily and efficiently make. You should be producing a product that is easy for you to make but you can be proud of making so you have a drive to continue making them.

Step 3: ;A; Don't They Want My Product?: Instead of asking yourself vague questions/ polling your watchers for what they want (they don't know what they want)...Just ask your watchers their general age demographic and make a product based on that...

Step 4: Finished Product: Always present your commissioned works in a way that is clean, professional, and consistent so it actually looks like what people are used to purchasing. This is mostly for people starting out.

*rolls over* that is it...pretty much. I am sure there is stuff I left out but 95% of the time this is what I tell people to do.... I hope it helps.

 


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spankymonsterr Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
i love this ;u; <3
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2015  Professional Digital Artist
8D thanks
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Ghost-Occult Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Student General Artist
In openings/order, on step two, it's losing not loosing. >.>

I also don't agree with most of this, but whatever.
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Edited Aug 29, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
xD that is ok you are entitled to your opinion. Your also entitled to correct my typo's.

It doesn't really matter though cause you knew what I meant xD. Isn't it a lot of effort to comment just cause of a simple typo? I am just curious cause...I don't think that is why you commented. You seem mad xD
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Ghost-Occult Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Student General Artist
Nah XD You'd know if I was mad, I'm pretty direct when it comes to that. 
I have a friend that makes that typo all the time, so it just bothers me after proof reading so many of her essays and such for college. It might seem like a lot of trouble to correct the one thing, but it makes me feel better! XD
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
xD oh well ok. w/e floats your boat.
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ArtisticMii Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
thank you!~ ✿
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soul-crafter Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2014   Digital Artist
very helpful! Thank you for sharing with us! :D
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Minakie Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Another awesome guide I'll save for when I decide to stop procrastinating and actually start doing commissions :)
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SpiritPhoenixRose Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So much fantastic advice in here-thank you! Clap 
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DreamsOfGems Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Professional Artisan Crafter
Ah thank you for writing this. I thought I was the only one who thought "If you dislike the person, don't take the order" LOL
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Thunder3321 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aaahh I really need this, thank you!!!!
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Kai45 Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014
This is SUPERB advice!!!
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GingerCat-P Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sounds good to me. My dad said I should try opening commissions and I needed advice on it :D
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gezugecko Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Student General Artist
thank you. i'll keep this in mind for the future.
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nurmuzdalifah Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'd just like to add something from a lil experiment my friend did about commissions.

If you randomly open your commissions, MAKE SLOTS. For some reason people are more attracted in purchasing when you open slots (as oppose to opening them forever)
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
xD oh yes of course!
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Guardian-Samurai Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Thank you so much for posting this. It really helped me out. I've always done my best to seporate my business acount and my personal feelings/fun doodle Art Experimenting account. I happened ot find his on my fun doodly account. I was wondering if maybe i could get your opinion? I recently (just an hour or two ago really) made my first commission ID. I was hoping maybe you could review the layout and prices and give me some pointers?

 adoptable-auctioneer.deviantar…

if you are that's great :D but if not i totally understand ^^ I hope you have an awesome day and thank you for your time.
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
can you send me the same question over note xD I never reply to these in comments
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Guardian-Samurai Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Sure :D thanks for being willing to talk with me. 
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Sakura-Hyuga Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014
Completely guilty. XD It's the reason why I don't have commissions in the first place: Instead of spamming my watchers with sad journals of having zero commissions, I opt to not do commissions.

Which makes me very poor. But I don't have the courage to open them, been wanting to for the past 5 months. :iconlazycryplz:
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ColourTraveller Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Student General Artist
Thank you for this journal. I already know my weak point for selling comissions, and I am planning to improve that later later. but for now I am going to fav this journal for reminder.
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
if you ever need help or just want someone to look things over you are always welcome.
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ColourTraveller Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2014  Student General Artist
Alright, I'll keep it in mind. thanks! 
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silverstrike2000 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am guilty of the bad additude when selling things :( but i DO NOT post it on deviant art. i usually scribble in pixlr and get over it. Though i still wonder why my adopts dont sell and i have figured out the answer! READ THIS IF PEEPS NEVER BUY YOUR ADOPTS!- I find that if i post a adopt thing with more than 2 adopts that they dont sell here is why- i get easily distracted from my main goal while making adopts. i make like 2 good ones and the rest suck. When i sell one adopt at a time they sell almost instantly! really i swear i posted this eevee adopt, i reloaded the page, and BOOM there was some one being like "I WANTS! points sent!" and i was all like YUS! so this jornal is really helpful and i love it~ <3
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
yep! that is a really good point about adopts and I have told people this.
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silverstrike2000 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D
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M-A-F Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
I'm guilty of a lot of this lol, I'm completely confused and have no idea about stuff and feel like I should delete my commission journal until I can sort something out that would be time/cost effective and not so confusing and stressful. :icondeathstareplz.: Definitely need to follow up on these advice! Thankews :D
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
oh yes just make a sample and see if its time effective! if not don't do it
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griffsnuff Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014
Definition of "real job"

  1. (idiom) A job which requires the employee to, work regular hours for a consistent wage that often exceeds the provisions of applicable minimum wage legislation. A job that produces a living wage.
  2. (idiom) A job that can't be replaced advantageously by a machine or a procedure.
  3. (informally) (idiom) A hobby that takes all of a person's free time

much ignorance is much
Just because some earn less than others on jobs does not make them fake jobs lmao xD A JOB IS A JOB. As the 3 examples over show there is several definitions of what a real job is. 
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griffsnuff Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014
Your calling people selliong their job as not a real job, your being ignorant to the fact that it is a job. But you somehow do not see it as such. You show extreme lack of knowledge by saying so xD thus ignorant.
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Kai45 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2014
Really? A typo, that's your best argument? Sad...
And I'd like to point out that most artists here on dA either are students are have a separate job outside of selling commissions. And selling art is just as real as any job. What about interior decorators? What about actors? What about musicians? Those are all jobs in the arts. If it's producing income it's a real job
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Edited Aug 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
XD well they didn't teach you everything...and YES you have a EXTREME lack of knowledge. ALSO English is her second language, it is incredibly rude for you to try to devalue her point because the vowels sound different to her ear. Why don't you just go read some stuff on Google about freelance instead of wasting my time trying to explain to you that you are incorrect. Just cause you went to some class doesn't mean you know anything about the art industry or selling it. Please go educate yourself instead of trying to prove to me you are right.
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griffsnuff Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014
xD yepp does not have a good comback argument and goes for the "spelling argument" haha I knew it. You can brag all you want about things you went to and learned, it does not show at all. 
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griffsnuff Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014
The fact that your bringing that up as well jsut shows me you have no comback, you cant win an argument, neither am I trolling or flaming, your just to stubborn to admit what you said was not correct and are instead trying to justify it.
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
you said real which is...synonymous in this case with fake cause if it isn't real what is it? I think she is also referring to the fact that it is implied in your initial comment that you do not understand how much money you can make doing this. You proved this further by saying "people would hire for and make a sustainable amount of profit to survive." since this is not accurate. Which I just replied to you about. xD I am not sure what you meant!

However, realize your comment wither you meant it or not could be seen as incredibly rude and ignorant! There is nothing wrong with not knowing. You do now!
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Edited Aug 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
XD Wtf is teco paths?  I have never even heard of that and I have had several jobs and been in college. I DONT hide things cause your entitled to say what you want

Edit: I looked it up. WOW A NON-ACCREDITED TECHNICAL SCHOOL. Woowwww I am so wicked impressed. I am going to proceed to roll to the bank with my bachelor degree.

Edit 2: IN FLORIDA! The scariest state in the entire US...defiantly well known for its educational promise and flourishing entertainment industry! ....cause its not... at all.
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
you can reference my other replies.
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griffsnuff Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014
Disagreeing does not equal taking things to personal.
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Edited Aug 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Many people who sell also have other jobs. I do this and I have a job I commute to if that is what you mean by "real job". I also make more here than I would at a part time. I also pay taxes on it so to the government. It is a real job. No where do I state in this journal that this is a guide to selling work as a sole source of income. Nor do I state that people should not seek other employment. It is simply a guide to help those who would like to sell their work as a hobby, fun, or for income.

That said. You are entitled to your opinion about selling art. Not that it is a valid one since you yourself do not sell anything. I do not appreciate your tone or your insinuations that selling work does not pay since you do not have any experience in the matter. I also do not appreciate your negative input on something that is meant to help people! I suggest you take your most recent journals advice and "I don't go around shoving what I like or hate into people's faces". But I appreciate you taking the time to read this and give your opinion!
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SinCommonStitches Featured By Owner Edited Aug 5, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
xD;...I work in the art industry too... that is my real job. I work on films and advertising..we hire all the time and the profit is suitable. I live on my own, have a new car,I pay my student loans,I pay rent, insurance...I pay all my own taxes.....I don't need the profit I make on DA but I could also live on that if I wanted to charge a little more (I don't need too much more money but I would like 100 for some of my designs ;; soon maybe?) I don't understand what you mean then?

I could make 1,000-3,000 a painting if I freelanced for actual companies rather than for people here... I have done it and been published. I don't understand what you are implying? Don't you want people to be able to sell their talent for that much if they can? Art is a real job.
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